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Post by egschade on Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:49 pm

What do you folks think about the use of cylinder guards (aka crash bars)? They seem to make sense in that they protect expensive engine parts in the event of a tip-over (or worse) but:
1) do they really do all that good a job protecting the engine?
2) are they worth the extra weight and questionable appearance?
3) is mounting driving lights on them better in some way than putting the lights on the forks?

There are several different types available through AF-1 [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. I kinda like these Givi bars for both cost and looks perspective but just not sure they're worth the investment...

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Post by Kev M on Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:36 pm

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No opinion

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Post by mogu83 on Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:11 pm

I really hate crash bars - that said 50% of the bikes I have on the road have them. If you want a pretty bike that you can put in the driveway and impress the neighbors then you don't want crash bars. OTOH if you want a bike for transportation that you'll be parking in weird places (not level) and riding on less than perfect road surfaces, crash bars are the way to go.  Think of it as putting a helmet on your bike, something you only need when you really need it.

On a Guzzi with the cylinders sticking out the heads and valve covers are especially vulnerable it a tip over or a spill, anything you can do to prevent contact with the road is a good thing.

Another protection device are saddlebags, better to scuff up a bag then tear off a fender.

I think crash bars are the perfect place for driving lights especially if your planning to run them all the time in an effort to make the bike more visible going down the road. Ask anyone that has ridden in front of my Beemer how visible it is.  Think train engine one light up high two others low and as wide as possible.

So for me:
1.  Yes
2.  Yes
3.  Yes

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Post by Mac on Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:14 pm

I've added front and rear bars on my K1600.As far as looks, I can't see them running down the road.And I will probably add highway pegs eventually.
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Post by Nick on Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:12 am

1. yes
2. yes
3. yes
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Post by egschade on Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:30 am

Given the positive feedback and my inclination to do so anyway, I ordered the engine guards. Not too worried about it being a "driveway beauty" since I'm also getting a luggage rack. Can panniers be far behind?

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Post by mogu83 on Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:17 am

That's a heavy duty looking luggage rack. A word to the wise - don't use it as an attachment for a tow rope, it won't end well.
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Post by egschade on Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:46 am

Heavy duty - perhaps. Towing - never!
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Post by Nick on Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:48 am

egschade wrote:I'm also getting a luggage rack.

Is that for a specific top case?
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Post by egschade on Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:57 am

Nick wrote:
egschade wrote:I'm also getting a luggage rack.

Is that for a specific top case?

It's a Givi rack but not case specific. I'll need to add a plate if I go that way...
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Post by mogu83 on Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:18 am

My experience with the Givi top case plate is that with a little thought you can bolt it on to about anything.
With a few holes drilled it it and a couple of bolts it bolted on my Beemer rack like it was meant for it.

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Post by Mac on Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:35 am

I mounted the Givi plate on the CalVin with the supplied clamps.A little electrical tape on the clamps so they don't didn't mar/slide.It never moved and I used to stuff it.
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Post by egschade on Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:52 am

It seems that my engine guard order is being processed:

Gentile cliente,
grazie per aver acquistato da BrixiaMoto. Il Suo ordine è stato correttamente acquisito, attualmente è preparazione presso i nostri magazzini.

Numero di DDT: 307508

Riceverà, non appena il corriere avrà preso in carico il pacco, una e-mail con il tracking della spedizione, cosi' da poter monitorare la consegna.

Dato che preparazione e imballaggio dell'ordine si svolgono in un ambiente ad elevata automazione, da questo momento in avanti non è piu possibile effettuare aggiunte o modifiche all'ordine.

La invitiamo cortesemente ad utilizzare la nostra linea telefonica solo per urgenze, fornendo il numero DDT sopra indicato.

Grazie e Cordiali saluti.
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Post by egschade on Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:17 pm

So it turns out the original order for the engine guards was lost. Brixia was very nice and quickly re-ordered them for me and promised a tracking number this time. Here's what I received today:

Gentile cliente,
il suo ordine è in consegna.
Le inviamo di seguito il riferimento tracking per il tracciamento della spedizione, la spedizione sarà monitorabile nell'arco delle 12 ore.

Riferimento Corriere:FEDEX
Riferimento lettere di vettura N°: 771688785900

ATTENZIONE!!! Richiediamo ai gentili clienti di firmare con RISERVA DI VERIFICA in fase di consegna del pacco, nell'eventualità che il collo presenti danneggiamenti consigliamo di non ritirarlo e di procedere a segnalarcelo.
*SE HAI EFFETTUATO UN ORDINE CON PAGAMENTO IN CONTRASSEGNO:
Ti ricordiamo che il corriere è autorizzato al ritiro del solo denaro contante e per un limite di euro 2999,00.
E' consigliabile preparare l'importo esatto da consegnare al corriere.

Grazie e Cordiali saluti.
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Post by Mac on Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:31 pm

egschade wrote:So it turns out the original order for the engine guards was lost. Brixia was very nice and quickly re-ordered them for me and promised a tracking number this time. Here's what I received today:

Gentile cliente,
il suo ordine è in consegna.
Le inviamo di seguito il riferimento tracking per il tracciamento della spedizione, la spedizione sarà monitorabile nell'arco delle 12 ore.

Riferimento Corriere:FEDEX
Riferimento lettere di vettura N°: 771688785900

ATTENZIONE!!! Richiediamo ai gentili clienti di firmare con RISERVA DI VERIFICA in fase di consegna del pacco, nell'eventualità che il collo presenti danneggiamenti consigliamo di non ritirarlo e di procedere a segnalarcelo.
*SE HAI EFFETTUATO UN ORDINE CON PAGAMENTO IN CONTRASSEGNO:
Ti ricordiamo che il corriere è autorizzato al ritiro del solo denaro contante e per un limite di euro 2999,00.
E' consigliabile preparare l'importo esatto da consegnare al corriere.

Grazie e Cordiali saluti.
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Dear Customer,
his order is in delivery.
The following is the tracking reference for tracking the shipment, shipping will be monitored within 12 hours.

Courier Reference: FEDEX
Reference of waybills N °: 771688785900

CAUTION!!! We ask our customers to sign with RESERVE OF VERIFICATION in the delivery phase of the package, in the event that the package is damaged, we advise not to withdraw it and proceed to notify us.
* IF YOU HAVE MADE AN ORDER WITH PAYMENT IN CASH:
We remind you that the courier is authorized to collect cash only and for a limit of € 2999.00.
It is advisable to prepare the exact amount to be delivered to the courier.
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Post by egschade on Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:15 am

Installed the cylinder guards this weekend. Not all that noticeable and will be a great place to mount my spot beams. Bolts to the frame down tube and are pretty robust. I think I saw one of the valve covers smile Smile

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Post by Kev M on Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:46 am

Nice.

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Post by mogu83 on Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:15 am

How you have to throw it on its side to see if they work. Shocked
They look - RIGHT.
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Post by Mac on Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:30 pm

Cool!
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Post by egschade on Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:10 pm

mogu83 wrote:How you have to throw it on its side to see if they work. Shocked

But then I would have to pick it back up again - something I try to avoid.
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Post by JerryK on Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:51 am

Nice bars Eric!

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Post by egschade on Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:57 pm

Finally got around to installing the driving lights . I was motivated to do so since I knew I'd be taking a long ride home tonight after dark. I used a relay triggered by the high beam circuit which sends juice directly from the battery to the high beam and driving lights. Huge difference on the ride home so well worth the effort. The picture makes it look like the exhaust is blocking the light but it's not.
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Post by egschade on Tue May 08, 2018 9:19 pm

Decided to take a couple pics of the lights working. Photos are slightly uphill so the lights look like the aim is too low. Will go find a level lot with a wall at the end and fine tune the aim but they work pretty well as is (even though I try to avoid night riding).

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