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Post by Kev M on Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:15 pm

Nick wrote:
Kev M wrote:KBB means JACK on Guzzis.... Way too small a market.
Your opinion.
I still use it as a barometer to refer back to.

Well on an editorial side I remember when both Chilton and Clymer had competitive products. BOTH used formulas more than actual sales data.

And semi-professionally I've kept an interest and watch on the numbers. Personally I've always found them arguably optimistic.

But when it comes to Guzzis sometimes they are painfully so off the mark that I have to assume they are applying the same formulas OR the sample is too small to be representative.

So yes, my opinion, but a considered one.


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Post by Mac on Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:06 pm

I find NADA to be more accurate than KBB.

2012 Griso
$4120-5420 Retail.
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Post by egschade on Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:50 am

The books can say what they want and are certainly relevant when looking at trade-in values, but what's key are market values. I've found the best way to price a bike (or anything for that matter) is to look up comparable offerings in your area on the web. That said, the Tenni Green Griso is a rare'ish bird that brings good money IF you can find the right buyer. That's my challenge.

On a different note, it looks like MG of Wayne just received a large shipment of bikes including several V7 III demo units he can sell as new...
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Post by Mac on Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:53 am

egschade wrote:The books can say what they want and are certainly relevant when looking at trade-in values, but what's key are market values. I've found the best way to price a bike (or anything for that matter) is to look up comparable offerings in your area on the web. That said, the Tenni Green Griso is a rare'ish bird that brings good money IF you can find the right buyer. That's my challenge.

On a different note, it looks like MG of Wayne just received a large shipment of bikes including several V7 III demo units he can sell as new...
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And if you end up trading in NJ you'll get a tax credit.
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Post by egschade on Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:58 am

Would like to use the tax credit but the possible thousands I loose on a trade is a bigger hit than paying about $500 on sales tax. If I get real antsy I may use the 0 down / 0 interest financing promo they pay the loan down when I sell the Griso.
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Post by Nick on Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:01 am

Eric,
here is a little research I did for you:

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As of today, there are two 2012 Griso SE for sale on Cycletrader:
One at $9,099, 7.5K miles and one at $8,299 with 22K miles
Keep in mind that these are dealers' retail sales and not trade-in numbers.
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Post by Mac on Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:10 am

egschade wrote:Would like to use the tax credit but the possible thousands I loose on a trade is a bigger hit than paying about $500 on sales tax. If I get real antsy I may use the 0 down / 0 interest financing promo they pay the loan down when I sell the Griso.
The right buyer,that's the issue with Guzzi.I advertised my Norge for about five months.Finally found a buyer and it sold for the NADA low retail price.
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Post by egschade on Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:13 am

Mac wrote:The right buyer,that's the issue with Guzzi.

There's someone from the Griso Ghetto in Vegas who has been searching for a spec'd Tenni. We're talking...
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Post by Mac on Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:17 am

egschade wrote:
Mac wrote:The right buyer,that's the issue with Guzzi.

There's someone from the Griso Ghetto in Vegas who has been searching for a spec'd Tenni. We're talking...
Sounds great best of luck!
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Post by egschade on Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:52 am

Nick wrote: As of today, there are two 2012 Griso SE for sale on Cycletrader:
One at $9,099, 7.5K miles and one at $8,299 with 22K miles
Keep in mind that these are dealers' retail sales and not trade-in numbers.

Thanks Nick! That's in line with my 'research'. 2012 Griso SE with 4100 mi and verified roller lifters in a private sale should be priced about $1 - 1.5K lower. My asking price of $7250 seems reasonable. Of the 51 total Grisos listed, only 1 is Tenni Green and that's the $9.1K bike in TX.

Of course, anyone on this forum get's the member's discount and a bottle of Tuscano...
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Post by Nick on Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:56 am

egschade wrote:
Nick wrote: As of today, there are two 2012 Griso SE for sale on Cycletrader:
One at $9,099, 7.5K miles and one at $8,299 with 22K miles
Keep in mind that these are dealers' retail sales and not trade-in numbers.

Thanks Nick! That's in line with my 'research'. 2012 Griso SE with 4100 mi and verified roller lifters in a private sale should be priced about $1 - 1.5K lower. My asking price of $7250 seems reasonable. Of the 51 total Grisos listed, only 1 is Tenni Green and that's the $9.1K bike in TX.

Of course, anyone on this forum get's the member's discount and a bottle of Tuscano...

I was/am following the Griso ghetto thread. Good Luck!
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Post by Kev M on Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:54 pm

Cool, good luck.


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Post by egschade on Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:35 pm

Just received a deposit on the Griso for near my asking price. Long distance deal so we have to work out shipping from NJ to Vegas. Can anyone recommend a reliable shipper who will transport that far?
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Post by Mac on Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:49 pm

egschade wrote:Just received a deposit on the Griso for near my asking price. Long distance deal so we have to work out shipping from NJ to Vegas. Can anyone recommend a reliable shipper who will transport that far?
Eric I think Cam used this guy who owns the Snowmobile Barn Museum.I think he moves stuff for Billy Joel also.
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Post by mogu83 on Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:51 pm

I have no experience shipping a motorcycle(zero) here's two that advertise in the AMA magazine (I'm sure we're all members).

Federal Motorcycle Transport
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I think Cam has shipped a few bikes hopefully he'll have some input.
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Post by Nick on Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:16 am

egschade wrote:Just received a deposit on the Griso for near my asking price. Long distance deal so we have to work out shipping from NJ to Vegas.
Great news!
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Post by Kev M on Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:04 am

Nick wrote:
egschade wrote:Just received a deposit on the Griso for near my asking price. Long distance deal so we have to work out shipping from NJ to Vegas.
Great news!

Yeah, sweet!!!

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Post by mogu83 on Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:36 am

Now you can buy an adult motorcycle like the Eldorado, Rolling Eyes


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Post by Kev M on Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:54 pm

mogu83 wrote:Now you can buy an adult motorcycle like the Eldorado, Rolling Eyes


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You sound like a Harley guy. pirat

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Re: Cheap Stornellos

Post by Mac on Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:01 pm

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mogu83 wrote:Now you can buy an adult motorcycle like the Eldorado, Rolling Eyes


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Post by mogu83 on Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:36 pm

If my Valkyrie wasn't so unique and such a good bike I'd be on a new Eldo in a second. (Naturally that's assuming I had a Beemer in the garage to go touring on)
Only thing I don't like is that stupid headlight.
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Post by egschade on Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:41 pm

Was kinda thinking of adding an [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] - always liked this model.
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Would leave enough to get a commuter bike for running back and forth to the office too.
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Anybody interested in a V50 project?
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Post by egschade on Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:44 pm

mogu83 wrote:Now you can buy an adult motorcycle like the Eldorado, Rolling Eyes

The idea is to get a lighter bike to SAVE my back, not a behemoth to finish it off! Shocked
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Post by mogu83 on Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:04 pm

I always liked the T-3.  Old enough to be vintage and has enough suspension.brakes, motor and electric to run in modern traffic.   Could make a great cafe racer.


BTW: I'm not a Guzzi expert but that picture is a 'T' not a 'T-3', the T-3 was a major upgrade with many newer style components. Another nice older Goose is the T-5 those detuned 850 motors are the gems of the Guzzi world IMHO.


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Post by mogu83 on Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:29 pm

egschade wrote:
The idea is to get a lighter bike to SAVE my back, not a behemoth to finish it off! Shocked

Ever wonder why a Cadillac is more comfortable than a Chevrolet. It isn't the weight that hurts, it's poor suspension and a frame that's not big enough to get the rider in a comfortable riding position.


Here's a great site to look at the ergonomics of just about any bike and compare it to another:
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Surprisingly the V7 II has a more upright seating position than the Griso

Play around with this site it's helpful because you can put your body dimensions into it.  Unfortunately no option to factor in age Smile.

I have a couple of bikes set up for an 18 year old body and I notice I ride them less and less each year. But they are cool.
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